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by: admin http://www.weprintcolour.com/postcard-talk/software-development/postcard-design-software/#comment-36 Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:40:31 +0000 http://www.weprintcolour.com/postcard-talk/software-development/postcard-design-software/#comment-36 Msn Further discussion on panel and Related Issues Sergey says: Could you be possibly available for talk now ? BOB says: sure Sergey says: Could you open 2 browser windows: in the 1st one please open AM in dev, in the 2nd please open AM in www. The look of AM in dev has been changed a little bit. Could you tell me your opinion about it ? Sergey says: I just found you css file responsible for colors which did not show and included it to the AM page Sergey says: in dev BOB says: uhh Sergey says: But it changed not only colors, but also how text fields and pull-downs look like Sergey says: I could reverse the change, or I could update www with it BOB says: I have dev and www tiled side by side BOB says: what do you want me to see? Sergey says: AM in dev Sergey says: AM page Sergey says: how it looks Sergey says: Please notice all the text fields are smaller now Sergey says: e.g. Update Proof text field BOB says: I think it's better... Sergey says: OK. this is the css file you already had. It just was not included BOB says: one thing that would make it much easier for user is... Sergey says: yes ? BOB says: if the updated proof button had an outline in red around it when user need to "update Proof" BOB says: Is this easily done with css? BOB says: If that happened then we can eliminate text BOB says: Click 'Update Proof>' to Execute Changes BOB says: In 2 locations Sergey says: Text is helpful under any circumstances I think ... Sergey says: Would you really like to remove it ? BOB says: I think opposite... Sergey says: Whatever you wish BOB says: The more graphic the idea the easier for anyone to understand e.g. BOB says: Instead of text, someting very noticable happens to button BOB says: blicking red outlie, solid red outline? BOB says: that kind of idea Sergey says: I see BOB says: simplifies Sergey says: A moment please BOB says: process Sergey says: ok BOB says: also cleans it up BOB says: no need text or textfield with trigger message Sergey says: I am not sure about blinking ... I'll see if it works in different browser. From what I remember there could be problems with blinking. But I could be wrong. BOB says: It could be as simple as making the arrow beside it blink BOB says: 2 frame annimation Sergey says: I see. Still I would leave the text field ... My experience shows that users begin to read if they are confused. Sometimes at least BOB says: But the letter are embedded it the button "Update proof" Sergey says: ok Sergey says: I am trying some simple changes with CSS now BOB says: cool Sergey says: will take a minute or 2 BOB says: sure BOB says: Also, I am not sure if this is easy but the text "Make any text changes" in the text Tools menu can be removed completely Sergey says: ok BOB says: " Change Layout" beside "Choose Text You Wish To Edit" Sergey says: Please see the red border around Update Proof BOB says: Yes but is it possible to attach it to all current triggers so it only shows when it is required by user? Sergey says: the button does not look 3-d anymore Sergey says: Is it OK ? BOB says: Actually I was thinking the same thing BOB says: I think mage beside is best arrow changes behoir BOB says: I am uploading it in a min Sergey says: ok BOB says: http://dev.weprintcolour.com/images/arrow-update.gif BOB says: http://dev.weprintcolour.com/images/arrow-no-update.gif Sergey says: Please notice: gif-animations could be turned off in some browsers BOB says: oh BOB says: hmm BOB says: is ther a form of moving image that cannot be turned off? Sergey says: ..."Make any text changes" is removed Sergey says: We could leave what we have now + add the gif-animation BOB says: yep BOB says: that works BOB says: starting to look more condensed and professional Sergey says: OK. So presently there is no procedure activated on trigger. Jusy inline JavaScript. I would have to make the procedure and add it everywhere at the AM page. Simple but would take half an hour at least - many places to change. Do you think 5 USD is a fair price for this JS trigger update ? BOB says: sure, if ou wanted me to make a payment let me know Sergey says: Thanks. Sergey says: No, no payment is necessary yet. I earned to little from the future payment. After JS trigger it will be only 10 USD form the future payment Sergey says: Ok. Would no you minfd if I continued tomorrow please ? BOB says: Ok sure, the say the word when you need me to BOB says: sure Sergey says: I have to have some sleep before I go to the office Sergey says: Ok. Thanks Sergey says: Godd night to you ! BOB says: g'night then Sergey says: thanks Sergey says: ditto Msn Further discussion on panel and Related Issues

Sergey says:
Could you be possibly available for talk now ?
BOB says:
sure
Sergey says:
Could you open 2 browser windows: in the 1st one please open AM in dev, in the 2nd please open AM in www. The look of AM in dev has been changed a little bit. Could you tell me your opinion about it ?
Sergey says:
I just found you css file responsible for colors which did not show and included it to the AM page
Sergey says:
in dev
BOB says:
uhh
Sergey says:
But it changed not only colors, but also how text fields and pull-downs look like
Sergey says:
I could reverse the change, or I could update www with it
BOB says:
I have dev and www tiled side by side
BOB says:
what do you want me to see?
Sergey says:
AM in dev
Sergey says:
AM page
Sergey says:
how it looks
Sergey says:
Please notice all the text fields are smaller now
Sergey says:
e.g. Update Proof text field
BOB says:
I think it’s better…
Sergey says:
OK. this is the css file you already had. It just was not included
BOB says:
one thing that would make it much easier for user is…
Sergey says:
yes ?
BOB says:
if the updated proof button had an outline in red around it when user need to “update Proof”
BOB says:
Is this easily done with css?
BOB says:
If that happened then we can eliminate text
BOB says:
Click ‘Update Proof>’ to Execute Changes
BOB says:
In 2 locations
Sergey says:
Text is helpful under any circumstances I think …
Sergey says:
Would you really like to remove it ?
BOB says:
I think opposite…
Sergey says:
Whatever you wish
BOB says:
The more graphic the idea the easier for anyone to understand e.g.
BOB says:
Instead of text, someting very noticable happens to button
BOB says:
blicking red outlie, solid red outline?
BOB says:
that kind of idea
Sergey says:
I see
BOB says:
simplifies
Sergey says:
A moment please
BOB says:
process
Sergey says:
ok
BOB says:
also cleans it up
BOB says:
no need text or textfield with trigger message
Sergey says:
I am not sure about blinking … I’ll see if it works in different browser. From what I remember there could be problems with blinking. But I could be wrong.
BOB says:
It could be as simple as making the arrow beside it blink
BOB says:
2 frame annimation
Sergey says:
I see. Still I would leave the text field … My experience shows that users begin to read if they are confused. Sometimes at least
BOB says:
But the letter are embedded it the button “Update proof”
Sergey says:
ok
Sergey says:
I am trying some simple changes with CSS now
BOB says:
cool
Sergey says:
will take a minute or 2
BOB says:
sure
BOB says:
Also, I am not sure if this is easy but the text “Make any text changes” in the text Tools menu can be removed completely
Sergey says:
ok
BOB says:
” Change Layout” beside “Choose Text You Wish To Edit”
Sergey says:
Please see the red border around Update Proof
BOB says:
Yes but is it possible to attach it to all current triggers so it only shows when it is required by user?
Sergey says:
the button does not look 3-d anymore
Sergey says:
Is it OK ?
BOB says:
Actually I was thinking the same thing
BOB says:
I think mage beside is best arrow changes behoir
BOB says:
I am uploading it in a min
Sergey says:
ok
BOB says:
http://dev.weprintcolour.com/images/arrow-update.gif
BOB says:
http://dev.weprintcolour.com/images/arrow-no-update.gif
Sergey says:
Please notice: gif-animations could be turned off in some browsers
BOB says:
oh
BOB says:
hmm
BOB says:
is ther a form of moving image that cannot be turned off?
Sergey says:
…”Make any text changes” is removed
Sergey says:
We could leave what we have now + add the gif-animation
BOB says:
yep
BOB says:
that works
BOB says:
starting to look more condensed and professional
Sergey says:
OK. So presently there is no procedure activated on trigger. Jusy inline JavaScript. I would have to make the procedure and add it everywhere at the AM page. Simple but would take half an hour at least - many places to change. Do you think 5 USD is a fair price for this JS trigger update ?
BOB says:
sure, if ou wanted me to make a payment let me know
Sergey says:
Thanks.
Sergey says:
No, no payment is necessary yet. I earned to little from the future payment. After JS trigger it will be only 10 USD form the future payment
Sergey says:
Ok. Would no you minfd if I continued tomorrow please ?
BOB says:
Ok sure, the say the word when you need me to
BOB says:
sure
Sergey says:
I have to have some sleep before I go to the office
Sergey says:
Ok. Thanks
Sergey says:
Godd night to you !
BOB says:
g’night then
Sergey says:
thanks
Sergey says:
ditto

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by: admin http://www.weprintcolour.com/postcard-talk/software-development/postcard-design-software/#comment-33 Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:54:39 +0000 http://www.weprintcolour.com/postcard-talk/software-development/postcard-design-software/#comment-33 MSN Conversation Sergey says: Hi Robert! Are you available for talk now ? BOB says: Ho Sergey: 10 mins? Sergey says: Yes, of course BOB says: My host is acting up again so I am on hold with live support, let's try and multi task then Sergey says: OK. Sergey says: Could you tell me please: Sergey says: V2_sside_bcard_adv_for_back.php BOB says: yes Sergey says: is different in dev and www Sergey says: I think the one in www is newer and should be used ... BOB says: no my work was finished in www BOB says: but it may not by much use for code BOB says: I was trying to show you what I wanted Sergey says: You mean you made it in www BOB says: best way I knew how BOB says: yes I think so Sergey says: I see ... BOB says: yes i am sure now Sergey says: Yes, in www it shows ther idea, but works stangely ... BOB says: I doen't matter whee you want to develop it to me BOB says: When I started that it was old code Sergey says: Do you mean I could develop it in www directly if necessary ? BOB says: sure Sergey says: OK. thanks BOB says: whatever you find easier Sergey says: OK. Thanks Sergey says: At that page we show the image: http://dev.weprintcolour.com/Uploads/011507_WNGEK3CHX41F_Card_1_back.gif BOB says: Oh Sergey says: Why did you keep the text editing tools available Sergey says: if there is nothing to edit at the image ? BOB says: That is the instructional image that tells the user what to do when initially entering backpanel Sergey says: And text editing tools should not work when it is shown ... BOB says: correct Sergey says: So we could just hide the Text Tools Sergey says: from the user BOB says: sounds good Sergey says: OK. Sergey says: That feature of adding text block ... Could you tell me what is it ? Which functionality is necessary ? BOB says: When wanted to pick your brain for best approach on that Sergey says: Sorry, I do not quite understand ... BOB says: Talking to tech now Sergey says: ok BOB says: http://www.themonkees.com/monkees_images_pw/Monkee%20Club%20Picture%20Postcard%20Back%20pw.GIF\ Sergey says: I see ... Just from what I saw at how the script for backside works presently, the set of images for the fron and back sides is the same. Will they be diffferent ? Sergey says: E.g. http://www.weprintcolour.com/Uploads/011507_CompanyName_Card_1_back.gif clearly could not be an image for the backside Sergey says: Backside must be mostly blank or there is no space to type that text block BOB says: right but... BOB says: user can choose from stock bacgrounds BOB says: made for back styles BOB says: they are currently present BOB says: in www BOB says: in these cases we wil load specific layouts BOB says: same coding for front BOB says: we will make layouts BOB says: to suit each 1 BOB says: I think there's 10 Sergey says: stock bacgrounds which I found in www now are for front side only I think. Could you give me a link to at least 1 image for backside please ? BOB says: 1 sec Sergey says: ok BOB says: Let's do it together BOB says: http://www.weprintcolour.com/bus_card_backgrounds/real_estate/RealEstate_house.php?verse=None&YourSlogan=None+Entered&CompanyName=Company+Name&YourName=Your+Name&YourTitle=Your+Title&AddressLine1=Address+Line+1&AddressLine2=Address+Line+2&AddressLine3=State%2FProvince%2F+Zip%2F+Postal+Code&Tel=Telephone%2F+Other+&Fax=Fax+or+Cel%3A&Email=Email%40Address.com&Website=Website+Address&textarea=&Submit= Sergey says: ok BOB says: enter AM Sergey says: yes BOB says: Save Card and continue Sergey says: yes BOB says: Design the BACK SIDE of this Postcard. Sergey says: yes BOB says: Add Stock Postcard Back BOB says: update proof Sergey says: I see .. I was confused by "Stock Backgorounds" on the right BOB says: Add Stock Postcard Back is right under image Sergey says: left I mean Sergey says: yse, thanks BOB says: then it disappears Sergey says: I did it and see the point BOB says: you may choose to not use any of my work e.g. V2_sside_bcard_adv_for_back.php BOB says: because it is probably a mess anyways BOB says: but it help communicate BOB says: to you Sergey says: OK. I see. But it is very good to understand what is necessary anyway BOB says: sure Sergey says: yes, it is very helpful Sergey says: thanks BOB says: there are still some grey areas Sergey says: yes ? BOB says: well we have not really covered complete to checkout yet BOB says: I am not sure if we should work in phases or... BOB says: it is time to get the big picture of the finshed project BOB says: up to you Sergey says: It would be great to understand everything to the end of course Sergey says: It would simplify coding BOB says: right BOB says: that is what I thought BOB says: Mostly everything works BOB says: accept ths part (back) Sergey says: I see BOB says: e.g. if you click save and continue now BOB says: you will see how it works BOB says: the pricing is accurately done BOB says: accept 5. I am done, I wish download the professional file only BOB says: opps BOB says: I take that back BOB says: it is also done accurately Sergey says: where is the pricing ? Sergey says: 1. Go back and modify this card 2. Design another business card. 3. Design the BACK SIDE of this Postcard. 4. I am done, I wish to get postcards printed. 5. I am done, I wish download the professional file only BOB says: pricing buttons Sergey says: I see BOB says: 49, 275 or 899 BOB says: $ BOB says: for item 5 Sergey says: http://www.weprintcolour.com/postcard_index_4x6.htm ? BOB says: If you check 4. I am done, I wish to get postcards printed. BOB says: you'll see printing prices Sergey says: 899 where should I select it at the page ? BOB says: I went too fast...1 sec Sergey says: ok BOB says: can you click back to http://www.weprintcolour.com/panelV2/V2_save_and_continue.php? BOB says: shows 5 options Sergey says: yes BOB says: Item #5 BOB says: I am done, I wish download the professional file only Sergey says: yes BOB says: scroll down Sergey says: I see now Sergey says: Pressed Continue, looked at the result Sergey says: Ok. Thanks BOB says: Yes, to summarize as best I can... BOB says: It is done as far as I can go with it BOB says: It will require your skilled hands to see it through Sergey says: OK. Thanks Sergey says: I'll play ith the system a little bit tomorrow after I get home form the office and ask you some more questions if necessary ... If it is not necessary, we'll discuss what we do 1st. Would it be OK ? BOB says: sure BOB says: sounds good Sergey says: Ok. So thanks for the tour. It is very useful to see the system in general Sergey says: for me BOB says: pleasure BOB says: thanks Sergey says: It is always a pleasure to work for you, as I already said BOB says: ditto...now back to my server problems Sergey says: Have a great evening! BOB says: u2 Sergey says: thanks! Sergey says: ditto Sergey says: bye-bye BOB says: cya Sergey says: cya MSN Conversation
Sergey says:
Hi Robert! Are you available for talk now ?
BOB says:
Ho Sergey: 10 mins?
Sergey says:
Yes, of course
BOB says:
My host is acting up again so I am on hold with live support, let’s try and multi task then
Sergey says:
OK.
Sergey says:
Could you tell me please:
Sergey says:
V2_sside_bcard_adv_for_back.php
BOB says:
yes
Sergey says:
is different in dev and www
Sergey says:
I think the one in www is newer and should be used …
BOB says:
no my work was finished in www
BOB says:
but it may not by much use for code
BOB says:
I was trying to show you what I wanted
Sergey says:
You mean you made it in www
BOB says:
best way I knew how
BOB says:
yes I think so
Sergey says:
I see …
BOB says:
yes i am sure now
Sergey says:
Yes, in www it shows ther idea, but works stangely …
BOB says:
I doen’t matter whee you want to develop it to me
BOB says:
When I started that it was old code
Sergey says:
Do you mean I could develop it in www directly if necessary ?
BOB says:
sure
Sergey says:
OK. thanks
BOB says:
whatever you find easier
Sergey says:
OK. Thanks
Sergey says:
At that page we show the image: http://dev.weprintcolour.com/Uploads/011507_WNGEK3CHX41F_Card_1_back.gif
BOB says:
Oh
Sergey says:
Why did you keep the text editing tools available
Sergey says:
if there is nothing to edit at the image ?
BOB says:
That is the instructional image that tells the user what to do when initially entering backpanel
Sergey says:
And text editing tools should not work when it is shown …
BOB says:
correct
Sergey says:
So we could just hide the Text Tools
Sergey says:
from the user
BOB says:
sounds good
Sergey says:
OK.
Sergey says:
That feature of adding text block … Could you tell me what is it ? Which functionality is necessary ?
BOB says:
When wanted to pick your brain for best approach on that
Sergey says:
Sorry, I do not quite understand …
BOB says:
Talking to tech now
Sergey says:
ok
BOB says:
http://www.themonkees.com/monkees_images_pw/Monkee%20Club%20Picture%20Postcard%20Back%20pw.GIF\
Sergey says:
I see … Just from what I saw at how the script for backside works presently, the set of images for the fron and back sides is the same. Will they be diffferent ?
Sergey says:
E.g. http://www.weprintcolour.com/Uploads/011507_CompanyName_Card_1_back.gif clearly could not be an image for the backside
Sergey says:
Backside must be mostly blank or there is no space to type that text block
BOB says:
right but…
BOB says:
user can choose from stock bacgrounds
BOB says:
made for back styles
BOB says:
they are currently present
BOB says:
in www
BOB says:
in these cases we wil load specific layouts
BOB says:
same coding for front
BOB says:
we will make layouts
BOB says:
to suit each 1
BOB says:
I think there’s 10
Sergey says:
stock bacgrounds which I found in www now are for front side only I think. Could you give me a link to at least 1 image for backside please ?
BOB says:
1 sec
Sergey says:
ok
BOB says:
Let’s do it together
BOB says:
http://www.weprintcolour.com/bus_card_backgrounds/real_estate/RealEstate_house.php?verse=None&YourSlogan=None+Entered&CompanyName=Company+Name&YourName=Your+Name&YourTitle=Your+Title&AddressLine1=Address+Line+1&AddressLine2=Address+Line+2&AddressLine3=State%2FProvince%2F+Zip%2F+Postal+Code&Tel=Telephone%2F+Other+&Fax=Fax+or+Cel%3A&Email=Email%40Address.com&Website=Website+Address&textarea=&Submit=
Sergey says:
ok
BOB says:
enter AM
Sergey says:
yes
BOB says:
Save Card and continue
Sergey says:
yes
BOB says:
Design the BACK SIDE of this Postcard.
Sergey says:
yes
BOB says:
Add Stock Postcard Back
BOB says:
update proof
Sergey says:
I see .. I was confused by “Stock Backgorounds” on the right
BOB says:
Add Stock Postcard Back is right under image
Sergey says:
left I mean
Sergey says:
yse, thanks
BOB says:
then it disappears
Sergey says:
I did it and see the point
BOB says:
you may choose to not use any of my work e.g. V2_sside_bcard_adv_for_back.php
BOB says:
because it is probably a mess anyways
BOB says:
but it help communicate
BOB says:
to you
Sergey says:
OK. I see. But it is very good to understand what is necessary anyway
BOB says:
sure
Sergey says:
yes, it is very helpful
Sergey says:
thanks
BOB says:
there are still some grey areas
Sergey says:
yes ?
BOB says:
well we have not really covered complete to checkout yet
BOB says:
I am not sure if we should work in phases or…
BOB says:
it is time to get the big picture of the finshed project
BOB says:
up to you
Sergey says:
It would be great to understand everything to the end of course
Sergey says:
It would simplify coding
BOB says:
right
BOB says:
that is what I thought
BOB says:
Mostly everything works
BOB says:
accept ths part (back)
Sergey says:
I see
BOB says:
e.g. if you click save and continue now
BOB says:
you will see how it works
BOB says:
the pricing is accurately done
BOB says:
accept 5. I am done, I wish download the professional file only
BOB says:
opps
BOB says:
I take that back
BOB says:
it is also done accurately
Sergey says:
where is the pricing ?
Sergey says:
1. Go back and modify this card

2. Design another business card.

3. Design the BACK SIDE of this Postcard.

4. I am done, I wish to get postcards printed.

5. I am done, I wish download the professional file only

BOB says:
pricing buttons
Sergey says:
I see
BOB says:
49, 275 or 899
BOB says:
$
BOB says:
for item 5
Sergey says:
http://www.weprintcolour.com/postcard_index_4×6.htm ?
BOB says:
If you check 4. I am done, I wish to get postcards printed.
BOB says:
you’ll see printing prices
Sergey says:
899 where should I select it at the page ?
BOB says:
I went too fast…1 sec
Sergey says:
ok
BOB says:
can you click back to http://www.weprintcolour.com/panelV2/V2_save_and_continue.php?
BOB says:
shows 5 options
Sergey says:
yes
BOB says:
Item #5
BOB says:
I am done, I wish download the professional file only
Sergey says:
yes
BOB says:
scroll down
Sergey says:
I see now
Sergey says:
Pressed Continue, looked at the result
Sergey says:
Ok. Thanks
BOB says:
Yes, to summarize as best I can…
BOB says:
It is done as far as I can go with it
BOB says:
It will require your skilled hands to see it through
Sergey says:
OK. Thanks
Sergey says:
I’ll play ith the system a little bit tomorrow after I get home form the office and ask you some more questions if necessary … If it is not necessary, we’ll discuss what we do 1st. Would it be OK ?
BOB says:
sure
BOB says:
sounds good
Sergey says:
Ok. So thanks for the tour. It is very useful to see the system in general
Sergey says:
for me
BOB says:
pleasure
BOB says:
thanks
Sergey says:
It is always a pleasure to work for you, as I already said
BOB says:
ditto…now back to my server problems
Sergey says:
Have a great evening!
BOB says:
u2
Sergey says:
thanks!
Sergey says:
ditto
Sergey says:
bye-bye
BOB says:
cya
Sergey says:
cya

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